I interviewed on 9 Sep 08 with 5 other guys. Two of us were ex-military, me with KC-135 experience (about 4,000 hours with IP and EP time) and another guy with C-130 & C-12 experience. He had been flying 737’s for several months with CAL but in a strange twist, the day of our interview was his first day on furlough. One guy was a former ATA pilot now flying for Spice Jet, and the other three were all RJ Captains. All seemed like great guys, well motivated and ready to go to work.
Interview is still three parts; a panel interview with a People Department rep and a Captain, the LOI with two Captains, and a records review with a Captain.
I have heard people say that the interview really starts when you arrive at your airport to fly to Dallas. I disagree, I think it stated the moment I got the call to set up the interview. You could tell whenever you talked to anyone at the company and told them why you were heading down to Dallas, that they took an interest in you, started to ask a little more about you etc. Even then, they are trying to see if you “fit in”.
The folks at SWA were great, from the moment I arrived at HQ, they were very friendly and tried to make everyone relax and be comfortable. I truly believe that they invite you to the interview because they want to hire you and it is up to you to show them that you would be a good choice.
While you’re at the interview you spend quite a bit of time in a fairly large waiting area with water available, chairs and couches and couple computers. Try to relax between sessions, but interact with your fellow pilots. I am sure you are being watched during that time and you want to look confident and friendly, not like a loner.
I had my records review first, it lasted about 40 minutes I guess. He collected the copies of my ticket and medical and looked over my records. I explained how I computed my numbers showing where they came from on my military flight records printout. He liked my Excel spreadsheet that I used, copied down the numbers he needed, looked over my checkride history and asked about a couple of rides. Asked for details about my only Q-3 check, and was surprised that the same evaluator gave me my re-check. During the interview I got the usual “how’d you get interested in flying” and “why Southwest” questions, as well as a few “tell me about your best/worst flights” type questions. Also got asked a couple questions about where I grew up and my family, very easy to answer things like that. Didn’t get asked anything I wasn’t ready for and nothing technical at all. Very conversational, like two people sitting and talking over a beer. . . only without the beer.
The LOI was next. Not much to add that hasn’t already been written here. Relax, react to the situation, and KEEP AN EYE ON THE CLOCK! I made my decision with about 1:30 left on the clock, and spent the rest of the time continuing to take steps like I was really heading to my divert location with ATC/Company/FA interaction and coordination continuing. Debrief was straight forward, I said that with additional time I would have explained my decision to my FO more, (I agreed with my jump seater as to where we should go) so that he understood I wasn’t disregarding his suggestion, but that I felt the other option was better and why. Then they asked me the “Why SWA” and “How did you get interested in flying” questions. Again, very friendly, nice guys who just seemed to want to get to know you.
Last I had the panel interview. Maybe because you are outnumbered, this seems to be the one that people fear the most, but there is really nothing to it. They looked over a couple items in my stack of paperwork and asked some basic questions. Yes, got asked the “Why SWA” and How did you get . . . .” questions all over again. But also got asked some questions about integrity (ever asked to falsify a record) and what have I done to improve things in my unit or to change a policy. They asked about my 737 type training, how I liked it, and what I found the most difficult in the training. Got asked what I liked about SWA, and even asked about their core values towards the end. I did get asked about ever having a situation with low fuel as well.
For all the questions, I took the angle of what happened, what WE did as a TEAM to identify and fix it, and how it has improved operations/safety/QOL etc for the unit. I always made sure I credited anyone who worked with me on a project or issue and how we were always trying to make things better for everyone.
How to prepare? A friend of mine who is a Captain at SWA gave me some great advise (Thanks Fitz!). He said to do your homework and learn as much about the company as you can. I was able to list the core values of the company and some of the activities and charities the company is involved in and relate them to things I have done and how I want to be involved with an organization that. He also said to stay positive in all your answers. Don’t slam a competitor in an answer to make SWA look good. Just point out the things that SWA does that are better. Of course read Nuts, it’s an easy read and very interesting. Lastly, like everyone tells you, relax and be yourself, it was a fun time.
After the interview: The following week my references started getting called. I had 9 recs, 4 internal folks (2 Capts and 2 FO’s) and 5 senior leaders from my unit. Only the 2 Capts and the top 2 guys from my unit got calls. One additional thing happened that I thought was funny. It seems that the gentleman working my folder happened to know the commander of the Civil Engineering squadron in my unit. . . .so he called him, even though he wasn’t one of the references I had provided. After Wednesday that week, everything went quiet. And man did time drag until the week of my DB!
I want to take a moment and talk about a subject people love to argue about. Getting your 737 type before the interview. I did get it, about a year before the interview and I thought it was a great experience. I got mine from HPA and was very impressed by them and their operation. Yes it is expensive, but here is my point: SWA has thousands of applications in their computer banks. They interviewed during only FOUR months this year (July, Aug, Sep, and Oct) and only interviewed about 450 – 475. People looking for a job in the real world, go out and get a masters degree or other training to make themselves more competitive in the market. Why shouldn’t you? I had been told that the guidelines for the interviewees this year were Typed with Check Airman/Evaluator back grounds. When you are interviewing just a small percentage of the applicants in your system, you can be fairly picky on what qualifications you are looking for. I don’t know the official hiring numbers for all the months, but I have heard that July had 55 hired out of 105 interviewed and the Aug and Sept (one board for both months due to hurricane Ike) had 107 out of about 250 interviewed. (I think these numbers are very good, but I wouldn’t go betting a paycheck on them.) Odds get good if you get invited. And if you get hired, the first year pay at SWA more than makes up for the cost of the type training. It is a personal decision, but I think a fairly easy one to make. If your goal is to work for SWA and not just to fly for an airline. . . get the type rating. |